How hard was that landing.Looks like a hard one.I had a 175 that had the stringer plates made out of steel.I think no matter how much reinforce there is it is still going to fail with a hard landing.I am sure you have a good A/P. WE always look at that area on all aircraft inspections.I have been doing repair for over 25 years and even was in the Insurance inspection side years ago.It would be a good ideal to remove the wings and do a good inspection at the attach points and replace all the bolts with new.It is not that much time to do. Then down the road you dont waste yourself or a passenger, or some one on the ground.With hard landings the energy tranfers and can do damage that you can not see or where you would think it would'nt. If you saw it on a slow motion film you would see buckling that disapeared after it stopped. I am surprised your insurance co. fixed it.Most of them these days can it and get out of the liability.Hidden damage is not good on an airplane. I would really look into it,even the tail feathers.
Yes I packed my bags ,but I don't like reading the F word on the NTSB reports.
Erik Hoopes
Feb 8 2006, 11:47 AM
It is the only hard landing I ever had, so I don't have anything to compare it to. The inspectors said that based on the gear condition and the description of the accident that the landing was not that hard. The wings do show a little stress in the tightness of the skin on the bottom of the wing near the fuel test sumps. I have a great insurance company, it would seem, and we are working with a shop right now to try and get the repairs done for the amount of money that is available. The Wings will be removed for hauling, so all of that will be inspected. The airplane didn't even bounce when I hit- just a hard landing squarely on all three.
As for a good A&P, I have only had the airplane for 9 months and the last annual was done for me by a gent in Kentucky where IFR conditions forced me to leave the airplane.
Kris
A hard landing is a hard landing, Or when your verticle speed is greater that your forward speed and the power curve is late and the thing just falls. From the photos I would have thought the wings would show signs of energy moving.You may find something in the tail also.I used to look at wrecks all the time and found hidden damage. You have to becarefull and not let the Money issue or funds get in the way.It is not a car.It will fall out of the sky.I have seen the issue money or funds come up already and see a red flag there.Do not take me wrong I am only going off of years of hands on situations. You own it you call the shots,demand all of it.Take no short cuts and ask for all inspections to be done and all to be repaired . Just keep in mind that if the repairs exceed the ACV then that is it. Never let you liken for an airplane distract a decision on safety. There are More 175's out there.
Then you need to find a personal A/P A/I that will work with you.And if he would sign off on an iffy situation Can him.You want one that knows is life is on the line. There are "good old boys out there still" no offense on them. I have bought planes with crap for repairs on them and inspectons logged but never done.Lazy has something to do with it.
Erik Hoopes
Feb 8 2006, 02:11 PM
Thanks for the advice. If you have specific failure points that you are aware of that should be inspected, let me know. The aircraft value is higher than the damage, but the insurance values the salvage at $15,000 so they don't want to pay more on the repairs then they think they can come out by totalling it.
We will be doing a full inspection on it as well as MOH and cowling upgrade.
Kris
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Feb 11 2006, 10:40 AM
Kris
I see you are selling your cowl.Are you changing to another style with another engine?
Erik Hoopes
Feb 11 2006, 11:28 AM
I am putting an R172K cowl on it. The Hawk XP cowl with cowl flaps and enough room for the IO-360 induction without modification.
Kris
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